Watch the interview you be the judge. Please read the rules before posting/commenting. Im free to be who I want.. A sudden violent combination delivered with 30 seconds left in the round electrified the crowd. He also went with a new manager in 1958: Joseph "Pep" Barone, who was a front man for mobsters Frankie Carbo and Frank "Blinky" Palermo. Sonny Liston had a very sad upbringing & had to learn to survive at a young age. [105], Singer/Songwriter Rod Picott wrote and recorded a song titled "Sonny Liston" for his 2022 album "Paper Hearts and Broken Arrows. Knopfler, who now records as a soloist and performs with a backup band, has a wide-ranging curiosity that has produced an eclectic collection of songs. [10] His family, but not one Charles (or Sonny) Liston, can be found in the 1930 census, and in the 1940 census he was listed as 10 years old. America's first look at Liston since the Ali rematch was when he fought fifthranked Henry Clark in a nationally broadcast bout in July 1968. RARE Sonny Liston Interview before the first Ali fight 1964 in Color Legends of Boxing in Color 22K views 10 months ago On the Spot show with Max Goldberg featuring the heavyweight champion. [36], Jack Dempsey spoke for many when he was quoted as saying that Sonny Liston should not be allowed to fight for the title. Before he left for his bout with Clay, Sonny's training in Denver took him to some strange places. [107] The story speculates that Liston threw the Ali match for the good of society. At one point, Clay was wiping his eyes with his right hand while extending his left arm"like a drunk leaning on a lamppost" Bert Sugar wroteto keep Liston at bay. ", confirmed most people's belief that Liston had taken a dive. Mark Knopfler enjoyed widespread popularity in the 1980's as the leader of Dire Straits, lending his husky voice to hit songs like "Sultans of Swing" and "Money for Nothing." Rocky Marciano, the former heavyweight champion, said that he appreciated the punchs strength upon re-examination. The film starred Ving Rhames as Liston and was produced by Rhames, Hassain Zaidi and Marek Posival. Walcott never began a count in the ring because of Ali's non-compliance and his physical struggle with getting Ali to go to that neutral corner. The Devil and Sonny Liston. The highly-anticipated May 1965 rematch between the heavyweight champions almost didn't happen. [32] Ironically, Patterson's manager, Cus D'Amato, associated with racketeers and had his manager's license revoked by the New York State Athletic Commission for alleged misconduct in connection with the Floyd PattersonIngemar Johansson title fight in June 1959. Patterson, a 4-1 betting underdog, was knocked down three times and counted out at 2:10 of the first round. Subsequently, Liston spent some months in Denver where a Catholic priest who acted as his spiritual adviser attempted to help bring his drinking under control. [49], Clay later said that in round five he could only see a faint shadow of Liston during most of the round, but by circling and moving frantically he managed to avoid Liston and somehow survive. Tocco called the police, and they broke into the house. He claimed the officer used racial slurs. Sonny Liston Interview 82,818 views Apr 2, 2014 1.3K Dislike Share Save haNZAgod 93.2K subscribers Subscribe A rare interview with former Heavyweight champion of the world, Sonny Liston.. He is a relatively elementary, one-track fighter." Liston had never been knocked out before, and most people didnt even see the punch happen. The Devil And Sonny Liston. Liston was the subject of a 2008 feature film based upon his life titled Phantom Punch. He also cited medical evidence: "A team of eight doctors inspected Liston's arm at St. Francis Hospital in Miami Beach and agreed that it was too badly damaged for Liston to continue fighting. I didn't want anything to do with him. ", Still, some found it hard to believe that the punch could have floored a man like Liston. Create Space Independent Publishing Platform. Sonny Liston in Denver, Colorado. Even before the first punch was thrown, the May 25, 1965 bout between Muhammad Ali and Sonny Liston . I remember thinking as a child that this was a man who wanted to be left alone.". He also wrote that Liston's win over Patterson proved that "in a fair fight between good and evil, evil must win." The year 1959 was a banner one for Liston: after knocking out contender Mike DeJohn in six rounds he faced Cleveland Williams, a fast-handed fighter who was billed as the hardest-hitting heavyweight in the world against whom he showed durability, power and skill, nullifying Williams' best work before stopping him in the third round. Traduo Context Corretor Sinnimos Conjugao Conjugao Documents Dicionrio Dicionrio Colaborativo Gramtica Expressio Reverso Corporate The mysterious life of Sonny Liston. Never before seen Sonny Liston interview. 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Support this Channel: https://www.patreon.com/join/LegendsofBoxing Merchandise: https://www.redbubble.com/peo. You really never watched the first fight did you? I was about to say look at those mitts! "[40][41], Upon winning the world heavyweight title, Liston had a speech prepared for the crowd that friends had assured him would meet him at the Philadelphia airport. Many did not see the punch land, and some who did questioned that it was powerful enough to knock Liston out. [7] Liston was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 1991. Felix later said Clay was seconds from being disqualified. [19], On June 23, 1953, a team consisting of ten recent St. Louis Golden Gloves champions of all weight classes, with Liston on top as the heavyweight, was gathered to represent the United States in an International Golden Gloves (USA vs. West Europe) competition at Kiel Auditorium in St. Louis. He cited Liston's inability to lift his arm: "There is no doubt that Liston's arm was damaged. "But can he hit!" A few years before Tocco died, he allegedly told one of his good friends, Tony Davi, that he went to Liston's house and found the door locked and his car in the driveway. In "Song for Sonny Liston," Knopfler's voice is backed by electric guitar, a bass and drums as he tells the story of a sharecropper's son who went from prison to the championship to an early. [15] In 1946, Helen Baskin, along with some of her children, moved to St. Louis to seek factory work. Although Liston was widely regarded as unbeatable, he lost the title in 1964 to Muhammad Ali (then known as Cassius Clay), who entered as a 71 underdog. He found a quarter-ounce of heroin in a balloon in the kitchen, and a half-ounce of marijuana in Liston's pants pocket, but no syringes or needles. It was a good punch, but I didn't think I hit him so hard that he couldn't have gotten up. Don't confuse shyness with dullness, Sonny was reluctant to talk to the press - the always painted a bad picture of him.Dwight Muhammad Qawi Braxton ATG Philly Joe Frazier Bernard HopkinsTags:pernell whitaker jersey joe walcott louis julio chavez evander holyfield lennox lewis felix sturm oscar de la hoya floyd mayweather miguel cotto marquez manny pacquiao pacman boxing boxer ko knockout tribute robbery mike tyson rocky marciano oscar de la hoya manny pacquiao foreman fight miguel cotto dead death muhammad ali cassius mike tyson clay lennox lewis eric morales barrera floyd mayweather fedor emelianenko ufc boxing ko k.o. He won eight fights that year, six by knockout. Tradues em contexto de "with Sonny" en ingls-portugus da Reverso Context : I think you should stay here with Sonny. [74], Writer Gilbert Rogin assessed Liston's style and physique after his win over Zora Folley. "The public is not with me. Furthermore, that count cannot be started until the fighter scoring the knockdown goes to and remains in a neutral corner. "[68], While Liston publicly denied taking a dive, Sports Illustrated writer Mark Kram said that years later Liston told him, "That guy [Ali] was crazy. interview with Alex Haley in Muhammad Ali by Thomas Hauser. A couple weeks later, he was still complainin' about that needle mark. Rogin wrote. In his next fight, he had a rematch with Summerlin and again won an eight-round decision. "I'm doing a portrait of a life, really, in a way, so you are trying to get the whole thing into just a few verses. Either way, nat fleisher as the KD timekeeper had NO right telling Walcott the fight was over. [73] The bout was stopped after the ninth round due to cuts over both of Wepner's eyes. And the Muslims were coming up. Some writers thought Liston brought bad press on himself by a surly and hostile attitude toward journalists. [5][6] Alfie Potts Harmer in The Sportster also ranked him the third greatest heavyweight and the sixth greatest boxer at any weight. ", Chuck Wepner on Liston's intimidating appearance. It is hardly the first recording by a rock musician about boxing. He used the platform to expound on the political theory that was so reviled in white America, defending Malcolm X and condemning racial oppression this was still months before President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964. There are no official records of his birth Shaun Assael. The ending of the fight remains one of the most controversial in boxing history. ", Ali clearly did not think he knocked Liston out. (, Shaun Assael. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It was a shocking result, not only because Liston was favored in the match, but because hardly anybody saw the punch that took him down. Anyone can read what you share. I'm Sonny Liston, I'm Jack Dempsey, there's no one like I'm from their . He is seen in the far left part of the row, wearing a white and gold robe, standing beside the original-look Beatle wax figures. ", During an era when white journalists still described black athletes in stereotypes, Liston had long been a target of racially charged slurs; he was called a "gorilla" and "a jungle beast" in print. [11][12][10][13][14] One writer concluded that Liston's most plausible date of birth was July 22, 1930, citing census records and statements from his mother during her lifetime. Liston was knocked down in the first round, but came back to control the next two rounds and had Griffin hanging on at the end. The organization was seen as an extremist anti-white people hate group and opponents of desegregation and Martin Luther King Jr. Clays propensity for self-promotion and controversy seemed to fit in with the groups inflammatory rhetoric. Maybe he was. What are you doing? Genuinely kind mobster who had been convicted of armed robbery and assault. Naturally, they decided that Ali would take on Liston. Carwin probably wasn't even that tall. Liston didn't seem to mind though. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. "He said: 'Look what they did!' Interviewing and trash-talk have both gone through some tremendous evolutions, havent they? Muhammad Ali called it his "anchor punch," a quick right hand that the young heavyweight champion claimed he had learned from his friend, actor Stepin Fetchit. [99] (3) The mob promised Liston some money to throw the second Ali fight, but they never paid him. Liston has been referenced in many songs by artists such as Curtis Eller, Sun Kil Moon, the Animals, Tom Petty, Mark Knopfler, Phil Ochs, Morrissey, Freddy Blohm, Chuck E. Weiss, This Bike is a Pipe Bomb, the Roots, Wu-Tang Clan, Gone Jackals, Billy Joel, the Mountain Goats, Lil Wayne, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, and the Killers. [93] Liston had been hospitalized in early December, complaining of chest pains. NPR's Robert Siegel talks to Gary Robinov, director of Raising Ali, a film about the 50th anniversary of the heavyweight boxing match between Muhammed Ali and Sonny Liston in Lewiston, Maine.. Biographer Wilfrid Sheed wrote in his book, Muhammad Ali: A Portrait in Words and Photographs, that Clay's protests were heard by ringside members of the Nation of Islam who initially suspected Dundee had blinded his fighter, and that the trainer deliberately wiped his own eyes with the corner sponge to demonstrate to Clay's approaching bodyguards that he had not intentionally blinded him. Pan, 2017. Gary Beckwith said, "It wasn't uncommon for family members in these cases to go through and tidy up to save family embarrassment. Any objective observer would have had to concede that Ali's counterpunch had landed, and landed with enough force to turn Liston's head, Rob Sneddon wrote in The Phantom Punch: The Story Behind Boxing's Most Controversial Bout. Sonny Liston had a controversial boxing career, winning 54 of 58 bouts from 1953 to 1970. He could probably drive his thumb through your skull like Michael Myers, It's crazy to think about the fact that Sonny Liston was an actual gangster running with gangs.. and then he looks so soft spoken in the interview. It'll just be for slow guitar, soft trumpet and a bell.". "You're putting things on and you're taking this out and molding it," Knopfler said. During these same years Sonny Liston was on the comeback trail as well. His death was, too. [38], Patterson finally signed to meet Liston for the world title on September 25, 1962, in Comiskey Park in Chicago. He was a gentle man. And, while Patterson was growing as a fighter, Sonny was taking on mostly journeyman and starting to age. Emily Post would probably recommend a ticker-tape parade. Underworld connections and his unrecorded dates of birth and death added to the enigma. Boston: Little, Brown. In his own words in Thomas Hauser's 1991 biography: "The punch jarred him. Only Massachusetts was willing to host the fight, though it was delayed from November 1964 to May 1965 so that Ali could recover from hernia surgery. This is a clip out of the \"The Other Side\" Documentary. 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There were plenty of tough questions after the first fight for Liston, too, namely, why didnt he come out for another round? Liston knocked out Hermann Schreibauer of West Germany at 2:16 of the first round. In his sixth bout, he faced ranked heavyweight Johnny Summerlin (18-1-2) on national television and won in an eight-round decision. Lennox is a conqueror? Liston was depicted as a bad guy by the media, a handbreaker for the mafia. According to a New York Times report the day after the fight, Clay was indeed an official member of the Nation of Islam. C'mon now, this is for the title, this is the big apple. Rare interview of Sonny Liston colorized. He offered no comment on the matter, but his victory would soon turn it into an international story. He then left the fighters to go over to McDonough. His father, Tobe Liston, was in his mid 40s when he and his wife, Helen Baskin, who was almost 30 years younger than Tobe, moved to Arkansas from Mississippi in 1916. [29] Machen's taunting and his spoiling tactics of dodging and grapplingat one point almost heaving Liston over the ropesso alienated the audience that Liston received unaccustomed support from the crowd. "He told me in the strictest confidence, but it was like he wanted to get it off his chest." Knopfler, 55, said inspiration for the Liston song has been growing for a long time. [citation needed], Liston competed in the 1953 United States National Championships at Boston Garden and passed the preliminaries, stopping Lou Graff in the second round on April 13, but lost in the quarterfinals to 17-year-old Jimmy McCarter on April 15. Ira Gay Sealy/The Denver Post via Getty Images According to the post, he returned back home later that morning and called his sparring partner Gary Bates to tell him he was leaving for Los Angeles but that they should get together when he returned in a couple of days. [27][28], Liston's streak of nine straight knockout victories ended when he won a unanimous twelve-round decision against Eddie Machen on September 7, 1960. Larry Merchant, then a writer with the Philadelphia Daily News, wrote: "A celebration for Philadelphia's first heavyweight champ is now in order. My man. Sit down!' [50] But a Senate subcommittee hearing turned up no evidence of any match-fixing, and doctors confirmed his explanation that hed taken such damage to his shoulder that he couldnt feel his arm. During the fourth round Liston appeared dominant as Clay coasted, keeping his distance. Numerous fans booed and started yelling, "Fix!" Banker later learned that the police told Liston the same thing to his face. In the 2001 film Ali, Liston was portrayed by former WBO Heavyweight Champion Michael Bentt. On May 5, 1956, a policeman confronted Liston and a friend about a cab parked near Liston's home. But by the sixth round his sight had cleared, and a clearly enraged Clay fought a blisteringly aggressive round landing numerous combination punches. While valuing the photograph, appraiser Kathleen Guzman told. In The Greatest, the 1977 film about the life of boxer Muhammad Ali in which Ali played himself, Liston was portrayed by Roger E. Mosley. [76][77] Foreman stated: "There wasn't anything missing from Sonny Liston. The grave's marker-plate bears the dedication: "A Man. One of the victories was over Amos Johnson, Liston's former sparring partner, who had recently defeated British champion Henry Cooper. At that point, the fight was scored as even on the official scorecards. [8][9], There is no official record of Liston's birth. When Walcott got back to Liston and looked at the knockdown timekeeper, Francis McDonough, to pick up the count, Liston had fallen back on the canvas. [35] There are several theories as to why: (1) publicist Harold Conrad and others believed Liston had been deeply involved as a bill collector of a loansharking ring in Las Vegas. For those too young to remember, Sonny "The Big Bear" Liston was a legendary heavyweight boxer. When you can kill almost anybody in the world with your bare hands, you don't really have to go around proclaiming it to everyone. Two more arrestsfor disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and another for impersonating a copled to Liston being suspended by the Pennsylvania Athletic Commission on July 14, 1961. He died circa December 30,. In these feckless clinches he only managed to tie up one of Liston's arms. [33], Civic leaders were also reluctant, worrying that Liston's unsavory character would set a bad example for youth. Washington University Libraries, Film and Media Archive, Henry Hampton Collection. [64] Strict interpretation of the knockdown/count rule states it is the referee's count and not the timekeeper's that is the official count. [35] Liston's victory was loudly booed. Liston believed his date of birth to be May 8, 1932, and used this for official purposes[11] but by the time he won the world title an aged appearance added credence to rumors that he was actually several years older. The Murder of Sonny Liston: A Story of Fame, Heroin, Boxing & Las Vegas Pan publisher; 2017. Sonny was definitely a specimen. He sunk to the canvas, and as he was down, Ali stood over him, taunting and demanding his stunned opponent get back up. Rogin discounted speculation that Patterson had thrown the fight, writing: "The genesis of all this wide-eyed theorizing and downright baloney was the fact that many spectators failed to see the knockout blows. Liston was particularly known for his immense strength, formidable jab, long reach, toughness, and his infamously intimidating appearance. Who needed that? Ali brought his big personality to the small town, but Liston was still the favorite. Interview Date: March 13, 1989 Camera Rolls: 2104-2105 Sound Rolls: 248 Editorial Notes: Interview with , conducted by Blackside, Inc. on March 13, 1989, for . "The only thing my old man ever gave me was a beating," Liston said. He rolled over, got to his right knee and then fell on his back again. Once he went down, I got excited. "Yes, it was good and honest". Suddenly, the world had to come to grips with a new kind of heavyweight champion. "Nat Fleischer [editor of The Ring] was sitting beside McDonough and he was waving his hands, too, saying it was over." Sheed says that the punch and the knockdown "may have been genuine, but when referee Joe Walcott blew the count and gave him all evening to get up, Liston's rendition of a coma wouldn't have fooled a possum. In this case, Intercontinental Promotions Inc., which had the rights to Listons fight, also got to choose the first opponent for the new champion, should Liston lose. ", Hutchison, Phillip J. Tocco said that the living room furniture was in disarray, but the house did not yet smell of death. When Machen clinched in . "[78] While much has been written about the effectiveness of his left jab, others have commented favorably on Liston's wide range of boxing skills. Then again, you can also have guys like Ali or Mike Tyson. Muhammad Ali biographer Jonathan Eig shared a new theory as to why Sonny Liston may have taken a dive in the boxers' second bout. Liston's criminal record, compounded by a personal association with a notorious labor racketeer, led to the police's stopping him on sight, and he began to avoid main streets. Liston's wife also recalled that her husband would refuse basic medical care for common colds because of his dislike of needles. After repeated overnight detention by the St. Louis police and a thinly veiled threat to his life, Liston left for Philadelphia. In an unearthed, unaired TV interview, Sonny Liston's wife once said that the fighter needed to get out of the ring as fast as possible because he had diarrhea. "[18] The only backers willing to put up the necessary money for him to turn professional were close to underworld figures, and Liston supplemented his income by working for racketeers as an intimidator-enforcer. For his part, Liston said that the referees inability to keep track of time doomed him, as he didnt know when to get up from the mat. "He was scared of the police. Wepner needed 72 stitches and suffered a broken cheekbone and nose. Liston retired in his corner due to an inflamed shoulder. Ali is waiting to hit me, the ref can't control him. Known for his powerful punch, the majority of his victories were knockouts. At one point in this attack, Liston was rocked as he was driven to the ropes. But audiences attending Knopfler's concerts around North America this summer are hearing and responding favorably to a song of a different genre, a bluesy narrative ballad called "Song for Sonny Liston," about the troubled fighter who preceded Muhammad Ali as heavyweight champion in the early 1960's. Welcome to r/boxing, the official home of pro boxing on Reddit! On the album's lyric sheet, below the Liston song, Knopfler includes a famous quotation from Liston from 1962: "Some day, they're gonna write a blues for fighters. [citation needed], The fight turned out to be a mismatch. that startles everyone in a 100 foot radius. Ali biographer Wilfrid Sheed wrote, in his Muhammad Ali: A Portrait in Words and Photographs, that Liston planned to throw the fight for reasons unknown and used the legitimate first-round knockdown for that end. I know it", Liston said afterward. Sonny Liston was one of the hardest hitters the boxing world has ever seen. The torn tendon had bled down into the mass of the biceps, swelling and numbing the arm. There was something caustic in both eyes." Technically, contracts for boxing matches werent supposed to have rematch clauses, though pretty much all of them had some sort of loophole and agreement when each side wanted to guarantee a return bout again, the laws by which boxing governed itself were really more suggestions at the time. His fists measured 15 inches (38cm) around, the largest of any heavyweight champion. This interview is missing a "BOOOOOOOMZQUAD!!" On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. [8], Liston turned to crime and led a gang of thugs who committed muggings and armed robberies. Due to Listons long association with the mafia and the reputation as a peerless tough guy, there was speculation that hed thrown the fight for some financial reward. In that same book Liston was quoted two years after the fight: "Ali knocked me down with a sharp punch. [67] Some felt the knockdown was real but the knockout was fake. McDonough, however, claimed Walcott was looking at the crowd and never at him. [25][26], In 1960 Liston won five more fights, including a rematch with Williams, who lasted only two rounds. Even before the first punch was thrown, the May 25, 1965 bout between .css-47aoac{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:#A00000;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-47aoac:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}Muhammad Ali and Sonny Liston, during which the photo was snapped, was already shaping up to be the stuff of legends. However, when Clay returned to his corner, he started complaining that there was something burning in his eyes and he could not see. "[94], A bronze copy of a marble statue of Liston sculpted by Alfred Hrdlicka in 1964 was erected in 2008 between Old Castle and Karlsplatz in Stuttgart, Germany. A few months after Alis fight, Liston was dead from lung congestion though even that was shrouded in mystery and controversy. "It really has made an impact, actually from the very first time I performed it on 'A Prairie Home Companion,"' Knopfler said in a telephone interview. . Ali initially stood over his fallen opponent, gesturing and yelling at him, "Get up and fight, sucker!" The victim sought out the executioner." We cooked up that shoulder thing on the spot. Sonny Liston is considered by many as the most intimidating boxer of all time with a devastating jab which is widely regarded as one of the best in heavyweight history.
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